tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55013709486974091962024-03-05T17:47:28.288-08:00Black sheep amidst the cougarsNot True Blue Anymorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09415646742298290027noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5501370948697409196.post-8303037720549438932013-07-28T22:43:00.002-07:002013-07-28T22:43:25.493-07:00Life is a test - The ParableI am kind of tired of the lame excuse that God can't be more involved in our lives because then we would have no agency, God can't have prophets that actually prophecy or show signs because we wouldn't have any choice, or that God has to make the choice appear 50/50 so that you have to choose. All because, OBVIOUSLY, life is a test.<br />
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Well, this is a really stupid test if it is one. If you ever had a test in school that was like the one God is supposedly giving us humans, you would probably talk to the college and try and get that professor in trouble. Let me demonstrate the inherent absurdity of said test with a parable. Note, that this reflects the beliefs about prophetic revelation that I have gleaned from reading apologetic sources, removing a lot of the power of prophets, etc.<br />
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There once was a group of students that were going to be given a test. They do not know that they are going to be given this test, nor will any of their past knowledge be on the test. They are, essentially, starting as a blank slate (for the purposes of this test). As luck would have it, the professor decided to be out of town between the now and when the test is supposed to be given, so they won't be learning anything from him directly.<br />
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Luckily, the professor decided to send out letters to all of the students. Sadly, he was in a foreign country with an unreliable postal system. Many of the letters got lost, some got damaged and were discarded by the students on arrival, some got lost after they arrived. Some precious few, however, got to their destination and were read. These students now knew that there was a test coming, they still didn't know what would be on it, but that they needed to start studying.<br />
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They had proof of the test through the letter, unfortunately the professor did not provide any way for the students to know that it came from him. Due to this, many of those that received the letters did not believe the test was coming, and due to the lack of evidence of the letter coming from the professor, most of the other students did not believe the group that had received letters.<br />
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To counter-act all of this miscommunication, the professor called up one of the students personally and told this student about the test, as well as how to study for it. Sadly, the line was garbled, and it was hard to tell it was the professor calling. Nevertheless, this student decided that they needed to go around and tell everyone that the test and how to study. This student had no proof of privileged knowledge, and was a little kooky to boot, but quickly amassed followers among the students. Unfortunately, this student was unable to clearly communicate how to study, and the study guide that this student wrote was riddled with errors and inaccuracies. At least, the professor thought, they were going to be getting some studying done.<br />
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The professor also made sure that his teaching assistant knew all about the test and was available for questions. The only problem is that the teaching assistant has a speech impediment. The assistant's speech impediment is so bad that few students can really understand him, and the majority of them simply think they are hearing things if the teaching assistant tries to talk to them. The professor also tasked the assistant to try and spread the news about the test and how to study.<br />
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There was also a study guide available from last year's test (which is identical to this year's), but the professor made clear (in his phone call) that last year's study guide had been corrupted, and while it had some good things in it, the students would need to take any questions to his teaching assistant in order to determine what is relevant to this year's test.<br />
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There were also many different students that had decided to start their own following. Each group claiming different tests, with different test material, using different study guides, and different test dates. This situation became so confusing that most students didn't know what to believe with regards to when the test was or what to study. Many of the students started to send e-mails to the professor complaining about this. As the professor hear more and more about the chaotic situation, he knew that this was what he intended all along. Surely, thought the professor, this would be an ideal test, only those that passed the test would be worthy of a good grade.<br />
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I could keep going with this and flesh it out more, but I think this shows the quality of Mormon God's 'test'.<br />
Really, why wouldn't it be a reasonable test if we had infallible prophets, perfect scripture, and visible miracles. We would still have to make a difficult choice to accept God/Jesus/The Gospel. Think about it. Just because you know how you should act, does not mean that it is easy to act in that way. Simple example, everyone knows what the speed limit is and how to avoid a speeding ticket, yet how many people still get them? Or murder, steal, lie, cheat, etc? Doing the "right" thing is pretty damn hard, even when you know, perfectly, what it is you should or should not be doing. How does knowing what you need to do remove the element of choice? People would not have to make a choice to believe. There is nothing commendable about making a choice to believe in God when that choice is not logical nor rational based on the current evidence at hand.Not True Blue Anymorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09415646742298290027noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5501370948697409196.post-19613642400573394602013-07-24T23:23:00.003-07:002013-08-05T22:31:06.886-07:00Shaken Faith Syndrome - My Response Ch 2 - Ch 4Here is part two of my series on "Shaken Faith Syndrome," the book by Michael Ash. I was asked to read by my parents, but I must admit that I am having a hard time continuing to read this book. It is just so inane on so many levels. Let me dive into why that is.<br />
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He presents a lot of narrative, but is very light on justification. He seems to just want you to accept what he says as an expert testimony. In the end, it turns this into a compelling book for someone with one or two small questions, not someone well studied in all of the problems. Someone who is just looking for a quick-fix justification to solve their problems, not someone who is deeply intellectually disturbed by what they have read about mormonism and is going out of their way to identify where the answers lay in an objective manner.<br />
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He gets off to a great start. One order of ad hominem attack mixed with a side of unsupported argumentation. All of chapter 2 is a rant against ex-mormons. Which is interesting in and of itself. What place does a rant like that have in a book about keeping the faith?<br />
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Anyway, back to his attack.<br />
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Ash starts with accusing ex-mormons of obsession and going through "dissonance management." He goes through a long and drawn out explanation showing how formulaic ex-mormon exit stories are. His study (and his analysis) seem to ignore the plethora of confounding variables that exist (like one obvious one, how about they are all the same because of the one common denominator: the teachings of the LDS church). He makes the mistake of assuming that because he has found a formula (I will not go into whether or not it actually is true), that must mean that they are all unfounded. Which is a ridiculous notion right out of the gate.<br />
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One thing is obvious. Ash does not understand the ex-mormon community. In fact, few LDS faithful do. I would assert that they do not WANT to understand them (I have seen this in my own family by my sister completely rejecting me for perceived offenses, thinking I sent anti-mormon links, when I sent her a link to an apologetic website). I believe that this stems from a fear of their being right or having found some "silver bullet" that will ruin all testimonies. They don't want to hear it. If Ash and his colleagues want to be taken seriously anywhere but with strict LDS adherents, they need to spend the time to understand the dissenters, instead of trying to trivialize and vilifying them. If they were to spend this time in understanding, their works would gain a great deal of veracity and force.<br />
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One side note, he seems to be setting himself up as an expert on human psychology, but he is making amateurish mistakes, it is kind of embarrassing to watch.<br />
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Even looking past the pompous overestimation of the quality of his own work at FAIR (see middle paragraph on page 23), the fact that he likes to throw around titles of "LDS researchers" (without specifying their field of study, which is important when identifying the validity of their research/claims) while disparaging "anti-mormons" for doing the same, the overly pompous and arrogant tone (phrases like "Attempts to correct their misunderstanding of science are often met with evasiveness and hostility" page 24 come to mind), and his myopic view of open-mindedness (to be open-minded is to agree with Mormonism, anything else is closed-minded), his rhetoric simply falls flat. He simply seems to be out to dehumanize ex-mormons. If you can discredit them as people, then all of the sudden it becomes easier to get LDS faithful to discredit their truth-claims. This is a simple trick that many mass manipulators like to use (see anyone trying to sell you a product, a political idea, or a religious philosophy).<br />
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The other part of chapter 2 seems to be a drawn out justification of his job at FAIR, does that mean he feels insecure about it?<br />
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That aside, he has this consistent need to reiterate that ex-mormons leave because of their "overly fundamentalist views." He asserts that we need to be more loose about our mormonism (my words, not his). The big problem is that mormonism loses all effectiveness and purpose once you remove what he calls "fundamentalist" views. This is his downfall. In fact, he does a great job of discrediting all of Mormon revelation, prophets, and scripture, all within a few short paragraphs. Better than any anti-mormon could have done in a whole book.<br />
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He explains (after the manner of mansplaining) that prophets are really just men. We can't expect them to be perfect (false dichotomy), but that they are just like the rest of us. There is a quorum of prophets in order to decide unanimously on policy, if they all agree, then that means the holy spirit has spoken. He asserts that what the prophets say is not doctrine, doctrine only comes from the scriptures (OT, NT, BoM, D&C), anything other than that was said by men, and is perfect, they can just as easily be wrong. He makes a drawn out point of showing that prophets are influenced by their local circumstances, culture, environment, etc. That we should expect cultural biases (such as those against blacks and women) to be natural for men of their times, and not disturbing. Therefore what they say doesn't have to come from God, it can just as easily be their own invention. This throws out prophets as a reliable mechanism for learning.<br />
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The only mechanism we are given to determine this is the people. The church (in democratic method, I guess?) determines what is doctrine, the holy spirit confirming to each and every one of us whether something said is doctrinal or not. This leaves the individual as the highest authority, not the leadership (so why would we need prophets, scriptures, church, etc. when the spirit is the only thing that can teach truth?), but this also ignores the fact that people will receive differing inspiration from the spirit on what is doctrine. This throws out the spirit as a reliable mechanism for learning.<br />
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Once we realize, thanks to Ash's own reasoning, that we cannot rely on prophets (we can only rely on them to not lead us from God, he makes it clear on that regard, but he fails to demonstrate any guarantee that prophets will actively leads us TOWARD God), it only follows logically that the scriptures can't be trusted. They were written by prophets, who are fallible men who aren't special in the "speaking for God" department. Thus, the scriptures all suffer from the same unreliability and fallibility as the prophets themselves do. This throws out the scriptures as a reliable mechanism for learning.<br />
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With all three of those gone, Michael Ash has single-handedly, and within the course of a few paragraphs, thrown out all of Mormon epistemology. I.e. there is no way to learn or know anything within the context of mormonism. With that, mormonism is completely thrown out the window. With that, this book is now trash, and I can move on with my life.<br />
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Not so fast. It is obvious that he is wrong, and that we need to hold prophets to some standard, they need to be better than normal men in some way. The scriptures need to be directed by God's hand, as do prophetic utterances, as does the spirit. In short, there needs to be specific, objective measures in determining what is and isn't doctrinal.<br />
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I would love to have someone present what that is, but Michael Ash would dismiss that notion as "fundamentalist," but I just went through why that is problematic reasoning. Even if my argument about the spirit not being reliable is wrong, that means that the spirit is the only reliable means of learning, and that we can just figure out ways to learn from ourselves and the spirit, on our own. Why waste time at church learning about pioneer history, canning, home teaching, and missionary work?<br />
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Ignoring the whole problem with prophets that Ash has created (because, if we don't, this whole exercise is futile anyway), we can move on to some of his specific claims.<br />
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He says that prophets aren't infallible, nor should we expect them to be. I honestly have only seen very few people who assert that prophets are infallible, we know this, his statements to the contrary are an obvious strawman argument.<br />
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In reality, the expectation is that prophets have some above average spirituality and righteousness, would be ahead of the times (he talks to God after all), and be truthful and consistent when it comes to doctrine. These things have all been shown to be false about modern prophets, in fact, many have been among some of the worst men around. Joseph Smith with his Warren Jeffs style polygamy. Brigham Young with that and a large dose of church sanctioned murder on top of that. Gordon B. Hinkley with blatant lies about doctrine on camera and later confessed to church members (see the whole incident surrounding "I don't know that we teach that"). We don't expect infallibility, but we do expect "God's chosen prophet" to be better than the average member, most of the average members don't struggle with lying about doctrine on camera, sleeping with their friend's wives (or 14 year old daughters), or murdering those that disagree with them.<br />
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Sidenote: I especially like the phrase "While the Word of God may contain errors..." - page 41. Every Christian would go apoplectic if they were to hear that. If God's word isn't perfect, what's the point of having an "all powerful, all knowing, perfect being" tell us anything? How can we know he is doing the telling? Silly thing to say, on Ash's part.<br />
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Sidenote: They seem to rely on their readership's ignorance. Ash consistently mentions that "anti-mormons take quotes out of context." But he never provides any examples, and I have rarely seen this done. In reality, I believe that this preys on people's lack of time to go back and read original sources. Many that read this will think to themselves "I haven't looked back at any of the original sources, maybe it would make sense in context?" I don't see how taking things like murdering apostates and adulterers, castrating young men to marry their fiances, or marrying 14 year old girls (the justification for this is that that was common marrying age, I have seen stats that would argue that the average marrying age was early twenties back then) can be put into a context that makes them okay. But maybe I have a "faulty" moral compass, who knows, maybe one of Ash's prophets that can't prophesy can tell me.<br />
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Finally, this brings me to chapter 4 (which is short, so bear with me), which is on doctrine versus tradition. He tries to make a distinction between that which is taught to be doctrine, and that which is believed to be doctrine. In my mind, this is a faulty premise. Doctrine and prophets' speaking has a causal relationship with tradition. Granted, some traditions are created by people who start doing things on their own, but the majority of what is done as tradition is the fault of the prophets themselves. Therefore, when we are determining the likelihood that prophets are authentic, it makes sense to examine the culture that their speakings and teachings have created, in addition to studying the ephemeral doctrines (that change as convenient or popular). In this light, prophets don't really appear quite as authentic. I guess you could call this a more hermeneutic approach to the doctrine versus tradition discussion, but I think it more accurately represents what is going on.<br />
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As a final note, I want to cover Ash's example of prophets believing in the earth being flat. Ash pulls this ridiculous notion out of thin air that "past prophets believed the earth was flat, but we don't hold that as doctrine." First off, we have zero proof of this. Second, even if prophets did believe it, it is irrelevant to the conversation. No prophet talks about a flat earth, nor did they ever teach it as doctrine. It is silly on Ash's part to assume that we believe that all beliefs of prophets are doctrinal. What we hold prophets to is what they utter AS DOCTRINE. When prophets talk about the need to murder people by spilling their blood for them to repent, or that God and Adam are the same person, and they teach this as doctrine, then we have begun to find evidence against their being authentic prophets of God. Not when we have something silly like "prophets believed in a flat earth." Nice try, Ash, but you need proof of that, and then you need to demonstrate why it is relevant. You have done neither.<br />
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Thanks for reading. I will keep working my way through this mess of words that likes to parade as a book, and will keep posting about my "misadventures."Not True Blue Anymorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09415646742298290027noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5501370948697409196.post-44906044903357978932013-07-15T22:42:00.001-07:002013-07-15T22:42:43.495-07:00Shaken Faith Syndrome - My Response Introduction and Ch 1I was asked to read two books by my parents. The first is "Shaken Faith Syndrome" by Michael Ash (an LDS apologist). At first, I was going to simply get rid of the books, but then I decided to go through them and make some counter-points. I was going to prove to myself (and to my parents) how shoddy the best of the LDS answers really are. I have known it through my casual interactions with LDS apologetic information, but I haven't looked into myself in depth. Well, here is my chance. So far, I have gone through the first chapter (and the intro) of Ash's book, and here are the things that I found. I apologize in advance, there isn't a lot of sense to the order in which these comments appear. Some day I may take the time to organize this into a better flow, but for now, it will stay as is.<br />
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His academics are terrible. He loves his logical fallacies. Specifically, ad hominem attacks, poisoning the well, appeal to emotion, appeal to the masses, and begging the question, just to name a few. Here are some more concrete examples.<br />
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He likes to assert things as being true without supporting evidence. For example. Ash repeatedly asserts that anti-Mormon information is all blatant lies, complete fabrications, or taken out of context. The constant assertion that LDS critics "purposely bear false witness" or give "blatant misrepresentations of truth" without any real examples (there is one weak example that I will discuss under "covering up") to support is claim is laughable from any intellectual standpoint.<br />
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"In many cases, there is really no way to resolve the issue without the input of additional information (such as the additional insights given by revelation or additional scripture)." -page xiii</div>
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This statement presumes that, a) further revelation and scripture are possible/exist and b) the other side doesn't have substantive arguments that have not been adequately addressed. He states over and over again that there are "answers" to all "anti-Mormon" attacks, but he does not discuss how that implies that they have been answered satisfactorily. He assumes that by merely discussing a concern, you have sufficiently guarded it against all attacks. This is akin to assuming that because I have put up a fence of sticks, your tank cannot possibly get into my yard.</div>
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It is common to find Ash misrepresenting the position of his "opponents" to make them easier to attack, here is one prime example: "While it is true that the Internet makes vast amounts of information available to people all over the globe, it is a fallacy to think that all information on the web is equal in quality." -page xi</div>
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News flash: nobody asserts that this is true. However, by representing this as the "anti-Mormon" position, it makes is much easier for a doubting Mormon to nod their head and say yes (see Dale Carnegie's how to win friends and influence people, Carnegie mentions that one way to win people over is to get them to say yes and agree with you as much as possible). Once the opposing side has been presented in such a ridiculous light, it becomes much harder to sympathize with them.</div>
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"...people tend to believe those things that they read." -page xi</div>
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He puts this as a negative. Reality is people believe well corroborated stories. He either does not understand the opposing positions well enough to accurately represent them, or he is willfuly engaging in deceipt. Many "anti" sources are well documented, with ample research from primary sources, and given in context with the "pro" information. Most Mormons leaving the church (who then become detractors) spend all of their initial research time only on "LDS approved" sources due to their church indoctrinated fear of the evil "anti-Mormon." They only turn to outside sources once they are sufficiently deconverted due to the lack of real answers to hard questions that they are discovering every day. This fear of outside sources is readily seen (and propagated) by Ash's book.</div>
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Speaking of "anti-Mormon", he used these terms all throughout his work, but he never bothers to define them. What is "anti-mormon" anyway? Anything that isn't church approved? Anything that hasn't gone through a "faith-promoting" whitewashing (as advocated by Ash)? Anything that casts a negative light (whether historically accurate or not) on LDS "heroes"?</div>
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"Search engines do not rank sites by the quality of their research but rather by popularity or even who pays the most." -page xi</div>
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He seems to contradict himself at one point claiming little real religious education, but then also claiming that many people are coming across anti material. He claims that most people are unaware, but he acts like everyone has access to this wealth of information. Well, Mr. Ash, which is it? Make up your mind.</div>
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Lots of appeals to emotion, lots of emotionally charged language. If you are trying to make a strong, intellectual claim that all of the "anti" claims are groundless, why do you need to resort to gaslighting (more on this in a sec), emotions, ad hominem attacks, poisoning the well, etc. Why do your facts not stand of their own accord, but require cheap devices (that sadly work all too well) to be forceful?</div>
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He likes to engage in a form of gaslighting. By making the detractor position appear so unreasonable, by misrepresenting the position of "antis", by ignoring and discounting the validity of "anti" information or real concerns that LDS doubters have (and in some ways vilifying them), he creates a strong case for doubting your own beliefs and perceptions. This is a form of gaslighting (a type of psychological abuse). To attempt to discredit the doubters and detractors so is a reprehensible form of scholarship. Shame on you Michael Ash.</div>
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"If Joseph Smith was a prophet of God, then the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants, the temple ceremonies, and all the doctrines which Joseph was instrumental in restoring, are true." -page xiii</div>
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Not only is this black and white thinking, which is a logical mistake, but it simply isn't true based on LDS philosophy. This claims infallibility (or near infallibility) of Joseph Smith. If he was a prophet, then everything he revealed came from God, if he isn't, none of it is from God (according to this quote). What about the stuff that has been shown to be wrong by simple science? (Book of Abraham, Kinderhook plates) What about the stuff that, when pressed, the apologists themselves will claim that he was "speaking as a man." If prophets are known to speak "as men," what measuring stick are we to use to determine which of their prophetic utterances come from God, and which from himself? If prophets sometimes speak as men, how much of the Doctrine and Covenants is from God? Which revelations can be ignored? Did Joseph Smith make a mistake in the temple ceremonies, somewhere in the Book of Mormon, in something else he restored? This is a question that is difficult to answer, even though it is a favorite defense of the Mormon "defenders of the faith."</div>
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"...inoculating them against the damage that might be inflicted by critical attacks." -page xiii</div>
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"Ideological inoculation, like medical inoculation, introduces a small dose of a harmful disease." - xiv</div>
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Things like this make me smile and puke at the same time. Really, so facts are a disease and we need inoculation against them? The truth needs no inoculation, it will stand on its own once all of the facts are examined. Do we need to inoculate our children in elementary schools against "anti-gravity information" or against "anti-math" websites? The notion is absurd, and yet the LDS people have all completely taken for granted that the one great truth that stands above all other truths needs defense against facts.</div>
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This is a nit-pick, but if faith is not a perfect knowledge, why is the basis of every testimony borne in the church "I know," not "I believe?"</div>
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"Questioning the things we do, believe, or accept is <i>normal</i>..." -page 3 (emphasis in original)</div>
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Really, then why is it vilified in church culture, and by church leadership? Why are those that choose to publish church history and ask the hard questions (not in an "anti" fashion, but while trying to learn the truth and retain their faith) excommunicated (see editors of <a href="http://www.mormonthink.com/">MormonThink</a>, or men like Lyndon Lamborn).</div>
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At one point, Ash uses an LDS blogger for a lengthy quote. Not only is this silly in an intellectual argument, but the blogger's comments are absurd. The comparison is made between "questioning" and "doubt," where questioning now means that you are asking questions without sinning, where doubt now means that you are questioning while sinning. This blogger completely ignores the validity of real doubts. When you have no rational reason to obey a "God given" commandment, why do so? This blogger says the following: "The power of doubts, often raised by those whose motives are themselves in question, to destroy faith, family, and hope, is markedly diminished the minute one says in sincerity, 'I will do the things the Lord has commanded whether my questions are resolved quickly or ever because...'". - <a href="http://whoismormon.net/index.php/component/k2/item/1-doubts-and-questions-about-mormonism">found here</a></div>
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First off, this is begging the question of the truthfulness of that which you doubt. When you are honestly trying to seek an answer to the question "Is this information true?" it is a logical fallacy to assume that the information is true before examining any other supporting or detracting evidence. You need to examine both sides of the issue to get a full picture. He assumes that doubters "destroy." This is a commonly spread Mormon misconception. Taking each one separately, those who destroy faith are those that spread falsehoods as fact (whether ignorantly or willfully), those who destroy family are those who hold religious observances over familial connections (all while professing families to be the most important thing on earth), and those who destroy hope are those who vilify and demonize those who simply (at one point) were seeking to acquire further light and knowledge.</div>
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On page 5, Ash tells a story about President David O. McKay. As the story goes, McKay, as a young man, held severe doubts as to the truthfulness of the church, but he still held on tight to the rod and did everything he should, and came out a faithful member in the end. I personally don't believe one bit of this story. If President McKay had had such misgivings, doubts that "shook him," why would he make the choice to continue on in his path? His motives to guide young people into staying in the church at all costs call into question the veracity of his story. At one point the claim is made the McKay "never believed it for most of his life" (page 5), which doesn't add up with the purported behavior that followed (faithful LDS life for the rest of his days in spite of doubt).</div>
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He also likes to participate in "blaming the victim." He makes claims that it is "too rigid" a belief system or too "fundamental" views that cause a person to disbelieve. He also claims that members that believe have developed "mature ideologies." These kinds of views are not helpful to positive relations with non-believers, although they help to ease the feelings of cognitive dissonance that felt by members hearing about those doubting and leaving the church.</div>
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Ash claims that "Critics, however, often ignore facts that do not fit their assumptions." (page 5)</div>
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To me this seems like projection. I have never seem the amount of fact ignoring anywhere else in my academic and non-academic life experiences as I have among the LDS faithful and LDS apologists like Michael Ash. If he wants to point fingers, he should remove the proverbial beam from his eye. In fact, there are many so-called "anti" sources that seek to provide as balanced a view point as possible, and attempt to gather both the "faith promoting" side as well as the "faith detracting" side of the story. There are many LDS critical sources that are very good at the academic honesty that is so lacking in Ash's work.</div>
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Ash has a whole section on Cognitive Dissonance, the ironic thing is that he quotes LDS researchers on the topic, and not an objective psychology expert. Seems like an academic mis-step to me. He claims that there are four ways to resolve cognitive dissonance. The first seem to be those that he touts as admirable, and the last as dishonorable. The first is to reject new information as false, he claims that this is effective, because (according to him) "most" anti-Mormon information is baseless propaganda anyhow. Somebody needs to tell him that repetition does not make it so, but then again, isn't that what the Mormon faith teaches with regards to testimonies?</div>
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His second method of resolution is to reject the new information as unimportant, he then launches into a description of confirmation bias. What he does not do, however, is to demonstrate how he (and those that follow his viewpoint) are avoiding making the same mistake of merely confirming their prior biases. (Side note, another academic faux pas, he is citing a lot of FAIR sources, which doesn't add to his credibility, and doesn't prove his point.)</div>
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His fourth method of resolution is to reject the old beliefs. He again proceeds to assume that the correct move to make whenever we experience cognitive dissonance is to hold on to our old beliefs. This is simply laughable. There are plenty of times in (religious and not) situations where we are simply wrong and need to accept new information as accurate and true. If we were to follow his advice in this section in all situations in life, we would always believe our first conceptualization of any given topic, and could never modify them. Which is obviously silly.</div>
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I mentioned that I would discuss his section on "covering up" church history. He claims that the church doesn't hide it, and he cites several (some current, most not) sources that discuss the polygamy of Joseph Smith. He also asserts, without evidence, that it is the feeling of betrayal that makes people leave the church (his evidence is a Mormon pontificating on why people leave, not an actual study of why people leave, maybe he should have watched John Dehlin's clip?). He makes a good point that the church may not be willfully covering things up, but if that is the case why are things still "hidden" in some ways? His argument is that we should not expect to be discussing these things in sunday school or in the ensign, because these are meant as primarily faith promoting works. This is simply not true. As any long-term LDS member will testify, there are regular lessons and articles that are primarily historical information. The fact that we do not discuss real history in these "historical" lessons is where the "cover up" and betrayal comes from. The proper counter-argument from Ash would be that those are not mandated from the church, but come from Sunday School instructors themselves, but this is an evasive argument that ignores the real matter at hand.</div>
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Finally, he spends some time quoting posts from the "Recovery from Mormonism" message board (<a href="http://exmormon.org/phorum/list.php?2">RfM</a>), and he merely takes enough time to belittle the posters (or at least use language to automatically make them appear less credible). In fact, he quotes one poster and uses a [sic] in a <i>four word quote</i>. Any respectable author will tell you that to use a [sic] is often inappropriate, it only serves to make the person you are quoting look foolish, unless you have a really good reason to do so. In academic circles actively pointing out spelling errors like this is an insult, and serves no other purpose. It may be necessary if the text is old (in which case it shows difference in language usage, colloquial usage, etc.), or for similar reasons.</div>
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Anyway, this first bit was an adventure. Quite ridiculous, stay tuned for the next section of my reading.</div>
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I sent my letter to the bishop and to the church records office. The bishop replied and we set up an appointment. He finished up my paperwork soon after we met. I won't go into much detail about the whole process just yet, I will leave my full story for another day.Not True Blue Anymorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09415646742298290027noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5501370948697409196.post-30994819214526087392013-04-20T23:28:00.000-07:002013-04-20T23:28:26.666-07:00Interesting StatisticsLooking at the numbers reported in conference over the past 40 years shows some interesting results. I went and collected them myself, but afterwords I realized that all of the same information is already available at <a href="http://ldsstatistics.com/">http://ldsstatistics.com/</a> in a convenient spreadsheet format.<br />
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The birth rate per 1000 is really interesting. Births are estimated based on the number of babies blessed (reported almost every year). It is a good indicator of the birth-rate among active members. It is interesting to note the decline in birth rate since the seventies. It is also interesting to note that the birth rate was unrealistic for Mormons even in the seventies. The US average was 14 per 1000 in 2012, this is roughly 2 children per woman. Mormons are notorious for having many children per family, so the 2 child per woman number is going to be extremely low (more on this later).</div>
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Here, you can see an interesting trend of number of births has remained roughly the same since the seventies, even though the deaths are all over the place. In fact, deaths (which has to be estimated based on last year's membership, plus this year's births, plus this year's converts, minus this year's membership (this should give the number of members lost, which would include deaths, resignations, and excommunications, but it is obvious from the numbers that it cannot include all three of these things) are really interesting, given that there are several years with a negative death rate. How this happens, I don't know, they must have changed the way they count people during those years, who knows. Anyway, deaths have also remained consistent over the last 40 years.<br />
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The consistency would show that there isn't really a net increase in active families over the years, which means that a lot of people are leaving the church, and that the reported numbers simply include a lot of people that don't consider themselves Mormon nor do they want their children to be Mormon.<br />
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This graphic shows the estimated active membership based on what the birthrate "should" be. If the birthrate was the US average for 2012 (14 per 1000), then the membership would be around 9 million today, if, however, the birthrate were closer to a more realistic 28 per 1000 (4 kids per woman, and having grown up in a family of 4 kids that was considered small, I would bet this number could be higher), the number of members is just under 5 million. Interesting to see that the estimated active membership is barely reaching the same levels that were seen in 1982.<br />
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The estimated activity rate is obtained by considering what the average active members per unit (ward/branch) would be. Most wards split at 300 active members to keep membership between 100 to 200, this does not count all of the small wards and branches. Taking two estimates, either an average of 150 or 200 active members per unit gives this graph. Showing that activity rates are likely around 30% or 40%. For the more likely number (in my estimation) of 150 per unit, the estimated membership is just under 5 million (which is close to other estimates that I have computed, and the current popular estimates that I have seen outside the church). This graph also shows a steadily decreasing activity rate in the church.<br />
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The number of converts per mission is remaining steady, but there is a small downward trend. Either there are fewer baptisms overall or it is taking more missions to achieve a similar level of baptisms.</div>
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The number of converts per missionary shows a similar downward trend. Each missionary is achieving less, which means that it takes a greater amount of effort to find and baptize each person now (as compared to the eighties or seventies). This will likely get a lot worse once the number of missionaries skyrockets (due to the missionary age change).<br />
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This shows that the percentage of members that are missionaries is going down. Another indicator of the number of members being grossly inflated.<br />
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The number of full-time missionaries has flat-lined after the turn of the century. This will change now that the age has been reduced. Not much more to say here.<br />
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Here is the converts per missionary compared to the converts per unit. Converts per unit is quite a bit lower now, and has been in steady decline. One hypothesis here is that the church is trying to continue making new units to give a show of growth, when in actuality they are merely spreading their membership more thinly.<br />
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You can see the trend upwards, more members per unit. This is a strong indicator for increased inactivity rates. Since each ward requires a certain number of active priesthood holders, and they try and keep wards relatively small, this indicates there aren't enough active priesthood to grow the number of units commensurate with the growth of the membership numbers, thus there are more names associated with each ward, even if the number of active members per unit is remaining the same (it might even be going down if the pattern in my area of salt lake is any indicator of the rest of the world).</div>
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I like this graphic shows the increase in units (first derivative) compared with the increase in the increase in units (second derivative), this can be seen like speed (change in position) versus acceleration (change in speed). Neither of these have a consistent trend, even though the growth of reported numbers has been a consistent increase in roughly 200,000 to 300,000 per year for a long time running. In fact, the increase in units has slowed considerably, and never really recovered from the dip in 1999.Not True Blue Anymorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09415646742298290027noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5501370948697409196.post-70704667817202909582013-03-19T18:46:00.002-07:002013-03-19T18:46:40.767-07:00Five Key PointsI wanted to compile a list of key points that, for me, make the Mormon church absolutely undeniably false. This will make for an easy thing to share with those that call into question my change in beliefs, as well as a few good talking points with those that are starting to question their belief. So without further ado, here is the list.<br />
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1. Joseph Smith's Polygamy/Polyandry<br />
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Among members of the LDS church, Joseph Smith had a large number of polygamous adventures. He had over 30 wives (something like 33). Some of these wives were as young as 14, and some were still married to their (living) husbands. Some of the women Joseph Smith married after he had sent their husbands out on missions. Does this sound like the behavior of a prophet? Definitely not, especially when he claimed not to have practiced polygamy, and the church still claims (for the most part) that he was either not married to more than one wife, or that he was celibate with those plural wives (which is demonstrably false).<br />
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More info: <a href="http://www.wivesofjosephsmith.com/">www.wivesofjosephsmith.com</a><br />
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2. The Book of Abraham is a Proven Fraud<br />
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The original papyri that Joseph Smith used to translate the Book of Abraham have been found, quite a while ago, actually. Due to the finding of the Rosetta stone and the ability to translate Egyptian, the Book of Abraham has been translated into English by less than divine means. It turns out that the Book of Abraham was nothing more than a common funeral document buried with mummies, that the facsimiles were incorrectly finished (they were found damaged and incomplete, but there are other copies of the same thing) and incorrectly translated (just one example, the "high priest" performing the sacrifice was supposed to be Anubis). Also, the funeral document was written long after the time of Abraham. Finally, the Egyptian alphabet that Joseph Smith was creating was completely off from the actual translation. Three strikes, and you're out.<br />
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The kinderhook plates are a corollary to this. Look them up. Those and the Book of Abraham together show that Joseph Smith couldn't translate a thing, whether with divine assistance or not.<br />
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More info: <a href="http://www.bookofabraham.com/">http://www.bookofabraham.com/</a><br />
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3. Exponential Decay of Prophecies<br />
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I have touched on this previously, so I will keep this one brief. Why is it that Joseph Smith had tons of prophecies, many of the false ones having been covered up, and every single one of his successors had progressively fewer prophecies. In fact, the number of prophecies follows a power law curve (in case you cared). Why is it that the most significant prophecy in the past 30 years was either the lowering of the missionary age (can you even call a policy change a revelation?) or the declaration to the world on the family (the family is important, nothing new here). Prior to that, the only revelations since Joseph Smith have been squashing polygamy (more likely due to social pressure, the prophet was about to be arrested after all), and allowing blacks to have the priesthood (more on that in a sec).<br />
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4. Rampant Racism and Sexism<br />
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The church is filled with a history of racism and sexism, that still lasts until today. Church leaders used to teach that blacks were black because they were less valiant in the premortal existence, were descendants from Cain (this comes from the Book of Abraham) and thus weren't entitled to hold the priesthood, and that they would never hold the priesthood. This really speaks for itself rather well, anyone that resolves this uses a lot of mental gymnastics in order to overcome this sticky point. In addition to this, the church treats women as second class citizens. They are only allowed to hold positions of authority over other women or children. Their only place (it is taught that this is the best thing they can do with their life) is to be a mother and to raise their children. They are essentially discouraged from having a career, and are looked down on if they don't get married and have children. They are seen as objects to be passed around between men (if you are faithful, you will be given to a faithful priesthood holder in the next life). In the temple women make covenants to obey their husbands and not God, we also learn in the temple that women will be allowed entrance to heaven by their husbands (when getting married, the husband stands in the place of God for his wife at the veil).<br />
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5. Book of Mormon Anachronisms and DNA<br />
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The Book of Mormon has several problems. First, DNA analysis on Native Americans shows that they have Asian roots and not Jewish roots. Look this up, there are several angles to tackle this, and none of them work in favor of the Book of Mormon. Second, there are a ton of anachronisms in the Book of Mormon, meaning there are things that the Book of Mormon references that Joseph Smith, while writing it, would have known about, but that didn't exist in the time or place of the Book of Mormon. There are references to animals and crops, and there has been no evidence for those animals (such as horses) or those specific crops being available at that time in the Book of Mormon. There are references to materials (e.g. steel) with no evidence that the steel was there, no evidence of the facilities existing to make the steel, no evidence of the techniques to make steel, and no evidence of the waste created when making steel. There is more, but studying this out has not been a strong point of mine. In addition to this, there is no evidence of the many battles that took place. There were supposedly millions of people slain near New York (there are many other locations), but not one shred of evidence of there being millions of bodies, or other evidence of remains being there. This is not the only large scale battlefield. How do the traces of two civilizations of that supposed size simply disappear without a trace? Also, the population growth necessary to reach the numbers of people that died in these battles is simply unheard of, especially with the numbers of deaths found in the battle portions of the Book of Mormon.Not True Blue Anymorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09415646742298290027noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5501370948697409196.post-25071035840084672232013-02-17T13:38:00.000-08:002013-02-17T13:38:01.889-08:00Myths, Regrets, and ReformFirst, I want to mention an interesting movement that has come to my attention. Check out these 95 theses, I find most of them are interesting points that Mormons should think about and realize about their own religion. <a href="http://mormonreformation.blogspot.com/">95 Theses for Mormonism</a><br />
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Next, I want to mention an interesting study done by a man named John Dehlin. This study was instigated by higher ups in the church, and it was given as a presentation to some general authorities. I think it is a lot more accurate than what most people believe. Most mormons think that people leave the church because they are offended, want to sin, are lazy, or never had a testimony to begin with. This research debunks that. <a href="http://mormonstories.org/top-5-myths-and-truths-about-why-committed-mormons-leave-the-church/">5 Myths</a><br />
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I think that the myths are more of a defense mechanism. To prevent yourself from believing that people leaving have a valid reason to do so (cognitive dissonance), they need to perform <i>ad hominem</i> attacks or use some other method to show why the person leaving the church has some sort of problem or undesirable quality, instead of the person staying in the church being misguided. It takes a lot to overcome this defense mechanism.<br />
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Finally, I want to talk about 3 regrets. I may attribute the source wrong here, but I have heard about this both from exmormon sources and from church. Apparently, there was some sort of trauma nurse that did a survey of people on their death bead. She compiled a few big regrets that people commonly expressed, here they are.<br />
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<li>I wish I had spent more time with those I love.</li>
<li>I wish I had lived up to my potential.</li>
<li>I wish I had let myself be happier.</li>
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I would argue that leaving the church helps a person to prevent all of these regrets, while staying in the church will cause a person to have these regrets. Let me argue why.<br />
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First, <i>I wish I had spent more time with those I love.</i> While the church claims to have a family focus, it doesn't actually allow for that much family time. There are extra activities most days of the week that pull you away from those you love, there are extra meetings to fulfill callings, and hours of actual church meetings. Not to mention extra things you should be doing on your own, including temple worship, scripture reading, etc. As a Mormon, you really don't have all of that much time to spend with your family relative to what you could and probably should be spending. Ergo, leave the church and have more time to spend with those you love. Ergo, prevent this first regret.<br />
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Second, <i>I wish I had lived up to my potential.</i> The church stunts your potential. Your "greatest potential" is to be subservient to the church. You need to give up all of yourself and stop doing what you want and start doing what the church wants in order to "fulfill your potential." You need to go on a mission and waste that time, you need to aspire to excel at church callings, and God forbid you get called in as a general authority, then you just serve the church and you accomplish nothing for the rest of your life. Leave the church and have the opportunity to live up to your potential as a human being, use your intelligence fully, use your opportunities to the maximum extent.<br />
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Third, <i>I wish I had let myself be happier.</i> I don't need much to argue this point. The massive amounts of guilt in the church, the constant search for forgiveness and exoneration, the fact that Utah is the highest depression rate/antidepressant usage in the country, and the high levels of perfectionism. The church makes people unhappy. There is some happiness with the delusion of communion of deity, but that obviously is far outweighed by the depression and sorrow caused by the church. For your own happiness, you should avoid Mormonism.Not True Blue Anymorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09415646742298290027noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5501370948697409196.post-20700644098472669372013-01-28T22:08:00.000-08:002013-01-28T22:08:01.543-08:00Attacking the foundations, part 2 - Defense MechanismsThis is part two of my post that talks about the foundations of the LDS church. Here, I am focusing on the defense mechanisms of the church. According to an article by Daniel Dennett called "The Social Cell," many organizations can be seen in the same light as a cell (like those you learned about in your biology class), part of that is a defense mechanism. Daniel Dennett mentions in his article "Biologists know that you can infer much about the dangers in an organism's environment by studying its defences, which have been crafted to protect it from the most salient challenges." I want to discuss the things that are "dangers" to faith in the Mormon church and what that says about the tenets of the LDS faith.<br />
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<b><u>Information Hiding</u></b><br />
One big defense mechanism is information hiding. The church likes to hide information all the time, I already discussed this in more detail in my last post. However, the church discourages people from seeking out any information from any source other than "church approved" sources. The obvious danger is that if people hear the real truth they won't want to stay in the church, this is an obvious danger to the organism.<br />
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<u><b>Ritualistic Behaviors</b></u><br />
One big defense is to keep a certain set of behaviors, a behavioral programming, up. This boils down to daily prayer and scripture study, and down to weekly temple and church meeting attendance. Somehow, God will withhold blessings from you if you are not perfect in this regard. For whatever reason, you must have regular religious rituals. This is couched in terms of "you are missing blessings" or some such in order to make it more palatable. In actuality, this is to keep people immersed in the religious experience. They even tell you the exact reason why. Because if you are not completely immersed, daily, you will fall away from the church. This is a real danger. A lack of immersion will work you out of the church. I have also talked about this in detail, previously.<br />
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<u><b>Top Shelfing</b></u><br />
This is a big defense mechanism, most, if not all, church members engage in this. If there is ever a problem, some question, that attacks their faith, the last possible resolution for their cognitive dissonance is to put things on the "top shelf" for later "revelation" or insight. For many who exit the church, their top shelf had become so over loaded that it simply collapsed. They realized that there was simply to much to of a load to bear. Obviously, things that are a problem to the church need to be ignored (if it were true, they could be confronted, but they can't).<br />
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<u><b>Persecution Complex</b></u><br />
Most, if not all, cults engage in a "persecution complex." They see others as persecuting them, especially if anyone is coming close to saying anything bad about them. They get chased away an yelled at for their anti-social and aberrational behavior, and they think that it is all a sign of being God's "chosen" people. Just like the Israelites in the old testament, God's chosen people chased from promised land to promised land. This is a defense mechanism to counter the fact that people hate the cult, because otherwise they would need to accept that their behavior is wrong.<br />
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<u><b> Service/Family Focus</b></u><br />
The church focuses on service and family. Perhaps this isn't so much of a defense mechanism, it might be in order to show that the church is good based on the "by their fruits ye shall know them" thing. I see it more as (as Dennett mentions) a mechanism to perpetuate the organism, a method of replication. It is like a peacock showing off its beautiful feathers in order to attract a mate. Good people will be drawn to the goodness, and will not have the time to consider or look into what the church is really about.<br />
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<u><b>False Dichotomies</b></u><br />
Everything is cast into terms of black and white. Either this or that. All or nothing. There is never anything in between. This is a defense mechanism to keep people from operating in the gray-shade regions that the world actually works in. People are not all good or all bad, and yet the church represents the believers as all good and the unbelievers as all bad. If you are outside the church you are misguided, stupid, or evil. If you are in the church, you are one of the few blessed and chosen in the world. Another example is the fact that the church is either all true or a complete hoax. Joseph Smith was either a prophet of God or a complete liar. None of these things are true, there are plenty of shades of grayscale in between the two extremes. This helps people to reject the obvious bad answer, but then they must in turn accept the somewhat implausible alternative. The dichotomy is a defense/replication mechanism that works extremely well.<br />
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<u><b>Social Focus</b></u><br />
There is a big social focus in the church. You incorporate a person into the church socially. This gets them deeply ingrained into the workings of the church. Once they have friends, acquaintances, co-workers, and family members in the church there are serious repercussions to leaving the church. This keeps many people in who would otherwise leave.<br />
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<u><b>Dehumanization/Depersonalization</b></u><br />
Another defense mechanism is to dehumanize or depersonalize any opposition. They become "the mob," "the world," "non-members," "gentiles," or "the wicked" or any other label that removes the humanity from detractors. It is so much easier to disagree with something that has no humanity than it is to disagree with your friends and family. This is a defense mechanism to prevent people from agreeing with those that disagree with you, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.<br />
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<u><b>False Appeals</b></u><br />
These are false appeals to authority or to the masses. "14 million people can't be wrong!" "The church is the fastest growing religion in America, they can't be wrong!" "So-and-so is a professor and really smart, he is a member, he can't be wrong." "Elder x is a Doctor/Lawyer/Successful businessman, that shows that even smart and thinking people like myself are members, that must make it okay." "A smart person like Mr. x is a Mormon, that must mean its true, he usually knows better than I do." These kind of logical fallacies are pervasive in church thinking. They, again, keep people from considering that the church isn't true, it keeps them believing by trusting others. Another is an appeal to Pascal's wager (which goes back also to a false dichotomy), which states that you can either believe or not, and God either exists or not. The only way to lose is to not believe and have God exist, which implies that there is safety in believing, you miss out on nothing if you are wrong, if you are right you win big. This isn't to mention that there are many things in between. Don't forget the large opportunity cost to believing in a lie, the behavioral control, and the misery caused by all of the conditioning and lies.<br />
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<u><b>Holding Family Hostage</b></u><br />
The church holds your family hostage. Not in a literal sense, but in a spiritual sense. You need to do everything the church asks of you, or you will lose your family. Not just for this life, but forever. People naturally love their family and they want to keep their family forever. This is a natural human desire that the church abuses by teaching people they can HAVE the forever family that they so desire, if only the cow to the demands of "God" and toe the line for their whole life. This keeps people "top shelfing" in order to stay in the church, it keeps the people from accepting anything when doubts are brought up (and even can cause them to become violent). This one makes me angry because it has caused so much misery for so many people, all across the church. So many people worried that, even though they have been faithful their entire lives that they might still lose their forever family.<br />
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<u><b>Conditioning</b></u><br />
In order to keep members strong and active, what better way to do so other than classic conditioning? The church has many teachings that depict this. You do good things, good things will happen. You did a good thing, and so something good happened. You do bad things, and bad things will happen. You did a bad thing, that is why this bad thing happened. You are taught to see things in terms of this Good/Bad conditioning. Teach people, control their behavior, ensure they act the way they want you to. An especially insidious defense mechanism. One thing I noticed during the last time I read any of the Book of Mormon is how pervasive this type of teaching is in the Book of Mormon itself, and even highly intelligent people don't notice it while they are still inside of the religion.<br />
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<u><b>Fear, Obligation, Guilt</b></u><br />
The church has an interesting mixture of fear, obligation, and guilt. You are afraid of everything. You are afraid (and guilty) of everything thought, action, desire, lack of thought, action, and desire. Everything you do or don't do causes amazing amounts of fear and guilt. There is a great deal of obligation to perform so many obligations in so many ways. This is an interesting behavioral control mechanism. It causes an interesting mixture of co-dependent tendencies in people that experience these kind of cognitive patterns. This is similar to the conditioning, keep people afraid of disobeying, keep people doing what you want them to, and they can't escape. A defense mechanism intended to keep the organism intact.<br />
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<u><b>Emotional Appeals</b></u><br />
Rationale is bad. The church tries to keep you appealing to your emotions, which are not completely reliable, instead of your intellect, which is a bit more reliable. People construct emotions constantly. If you see and reason things out, it can be reconstructed and proven or disproven. Emotions cannot be tested, and thus are much more fallible. The church teaches that they are (paradoxically) more reliable. To cement this, they teach that it is the way God speaks to you. If God speaks to you through emotions you cannot ignore emotions, ever. Those become more important than anything else in the world. This is why the members of the LDS church become very disagreeable when emotions are cast into doubt. This defense mechanism prevents people from applying their critical thinking skills to the church, which would make the whole system crumble.<br />
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<u><b>Prophets are always right, except when they aren't</b></u><br />
Prophets are the gold standard of the Mormon church, but their is one solid defense whenever they say something wrong or conflicting. They were simply speaking "as a man." There is no consistency to when a prophet is speaking as a man of god or a mere mortal. There is no gold standard to determine when it is okay to believe what he says as prophecy or revelation. This, however, is a great way to defend against any mistakes the prophets make.<br />
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<u><b>Meaningfulness in randomness</b></u><br />
Here is an interesting article about people finding meaning in random events (such as sports, gambling, coin flips, etc.) <a href="http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/10-04-07/">http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/10-04-07/</a> This guy does a much better job of describing this phenomenon than I could. Good and bad happens to people as a stochastic process, it is religion that teaches us to find meaning in this random process. People do this with everything. If I flip a coin 4 times, and the first 3 come up heads, most people will believe that the fourth is most likely to be a tails. The reality is that the probability is still 50/50. Good and bad happen to everyone at random, we just need to accept that and move on. However, the meaning church members pull out is that everything good comes from God, and everything bad comes from your own mistakes or God is trying to teach you something or the devil is attacking you for being good. There is no real pattern here.<br />
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<u><b>The only true church</b></u> <br />
The church engages in an interesting form of gaslighting (invalidating the experiences and perceptions of others). They are firmly convinced they are the only true church on the face of the church, the source of all light and truth, the only good to be found. This keeps people from entertaining the notion of any other group being good or okay. Members will tend to distrust or look down on other groups, especially religious groups that aren't LDS. The fact that they are the "only" church (ignore the fact that this isn't true) with prophets only enhances this fact.<br />
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<u><b>Restoration</b></u><br />
Look at how bad other churches are, there is an obvious need for a restoration to God's original truth. So many bad churches are out there, the LDS church MUST be true. This is the line of reasoning that Mormons go through. Not to mention the false dichotomy here, why MUST there be a restoration, there is nothing to suggest that it has to happen, this is a Mormon construct to protect their interests and beliefs.<br />
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<u><b>Invasive Parasiting</b></u><br />
When the church becomes a part of every aspect of your life it becomes like a parasite. It becomes the dependent in a co-dependent relationship. You, the co-dependent, are there to fulfill and anticipate every single need of the dependent. You become responsible for their well-being. This, and other examples of a, lack of boundaries makes it much harder to leave the church. It is a form of enmeshment.<br />
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<u><b>Low Self-Worth</b></u><br />
I have talked about this before, but the church transforms people into a group with low self-worth and false humility. You are worth less than the dust of the earth, you cannot feel good about anything you have done. That would be pride. Pride is bad and (see earlier) will make bad things happen to you, it will cause you to lose your forever family. This low self-worth will keep you coming back for more, because the church provides a "high" to counteract the self imposed low. This low is counteracted only temporarily, and then you need to come back to the religious experience to keep you going (if you don't believe me, listen to how people talk in sacrament meetings, I have heard this exact language multiple times). If people don't feel like they are good enough to be on their own, they won't leave. "You don't SERIOUSLY believe that everything good in your life has been your own doing?" I was asked that question. There is no ability to think that you can do good things, that you<br />
can create good in your own life. It all has to be God's doing.<br />
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<u><b>By their fruits</b></u><br />
The church has an interesting and selective application of the phrase "by their fruits ye shall know them." They use it to show that their own actions are good and therefore they are good, other's actions are bad, therefore everyone else must be bad. However, look at it this way. I have explained many of the church's fruits. The people themselves are the fruits. There is not all good there, there is a lot of self-destructive behavior and thinking that members engage in because of the church's conditioning and behavioral control. All good or all bad thinking is a problem here, but to make it easier you can model is like a hidden Markov process. The goodness or badness is the hidden variable, determining the behavior. The emission is the behavior itself, determined, perhaps not deterministically, by the hidden variable. Settings to the hidden variables will determine to what extent good and bad behavior will be emitted. Each person has a model that determines to what extent good will come, but according to Occam's Razor, we can choose the simplest explanation to explain the data. This makes it easy to match organizations like the LDS church to be mostly bad, where a lot of people that the church would label as all bad can be easily seen to be mostly good in this light. This is likely much closer to the truth than the church's version of black and white.<br />
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I want to mention something about my usage of the word "they." I use the they in terms of the church because I perceive the church as a system. The leadership may have an insight or control over what happens, but ultimately it is a system much bigger than any one person. It started with Joseph Smith, who, I would argue, is a genius to have built this kind of an institution. I don't know whether he believed it, but he certainly had a lot of weird behavior that the church is covering up. One of the biggest methods that is combating these defense mechanisms is information. The internet and libraries will do the most to help people find themselves and to find true freedom when they are caught inside of a system that would never let them go if it had its way.Not True Blue Anymorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09415646742298290027noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5501370948697409196.post-36937668719568568632013-01-08T19:19:00.001-08:002013-01-08T19:20:30.648-08:00Attacking the Foundations, Part 1<span style="font-family: inherit;">Quentin L. Cook said the following in the October 2012 General Conference.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"> "</span><span style="font-family: inherit;">Many who are in a spiritual drought and lack commitment have not
necessarily been involved in major sins or transgressions, but they have
made unwise choices. Some are casual in their observance of sacred
covenants. Others spend most of their time giving first-class devotion
to lesser causes. Some allow intense cultural or political views to
weaken their allegiance to the gospel of Jesus Christ. Some have immersed themselves in Internet materials that magnify, exaggerate, and, in some cases, invent shortcomings of early Church leaders. Then they draw incorrect conclusions that can affect testimony. Any who have made these choices can repent and be spiritually renewed." - Quentin L. Cook, <i>Can ye Feel so Now?</i> October 2012 General Conference</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">What about those who have given all of their energy into making it work? What about those who did everything they mention in general conference, as well as anyone else? What about those who, in spite of all their devotion and desire, still remain completely abandoned in one of these "spiritual droughts?" Obviously, they were just <i>doing something wrong</i>. If they claim to have done things right, then they are just making it up. I cannot count the number of times I saw, and even did, this on my mission. Seeing people who said they did everything we asked them to, and yet didn't get an answer to their prayers. We always assumed they just weren't sincere enough, now I know there are some people who weren't sincere, but many of them were trying hard, I am sure.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Also, apparently you aren't supposed to look up information on the Internet. You might lose your testimony. If the church is so true, why do they need to censor what their membership sees? This sounds like several undesirable groups, some of the cults of the 20th century, some of the polygamy groups, and communist countries. "We can't let people be misinformed, or they won't believe us!" they say. Why? Is your foundation that shaky? Can you not stand when compared to alternatives? Is your truth so unbelievable that you have to hide the alternatives? Also, apparently you are sinning and need to repent if you hear other voices. So, you better repent if you are reading this. If the church leader's shortcomings can be magnified and exaggerated that easily, then maybe there is more truth to it than at first meets the eye.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Let's look at another example of why this censorship is unnecessary if the church were true. Do we need to censor information about American presidents? Do we need to hide what people see about the founding fathers of America so that people don't doubt how good America is? Do we need to hide information about Jesus, Martin Luther, Buddha, or any other religious leadership so that people only hear things from one source? I realized that everything I ever heard was from the church itself. They carefully selected and approved (look in the church books and you can even find the month and year this happened) every bit of information I consumed about church history. Why not let any and all information through? If it is true, it should stand on its own, without censorship. The fact is, that it doesn't. There is no truth to be had.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Just as an aside note of things bothering me right now, why is it that Mormons are so Pharisaical? They set up hedges around the law so that they don't break the law, see things like the BYU honor code. Not only is it 10x more strict than actual LDS doctrine, but most of the students will be 10x more strict than the honor code requires. Here is one example. Honor code says that members of the opposite sex cannot be in your bathroom area unless civility would dictate otherwise. Most students will, to be safe, never allow anyone of the opposite sex anywhere near the bathroom. Go find a place across the street or in some other apartment in the complex to use the bathroom. When is it ever civil or okay to tell someone (under normal, every day circumstances, of course) that they can't use your bathroom? The funniest part is that most of the people I see are lackadaisical about their religious observance, unless it comes down to a handful of things where they decide they need to be strict. They kind of muddle their way through Sunday meetings, barely care about temple observance, scripture study, prayer, or keeping the sabbath day holy. They will be cruel to their neighbors because they do evil things like swearing, drinking alcohol, or have sex out of wedlock. They are totally okay dehumanizing people in this way. Yet, they are the ones that will be strict about rule observance, and will get up on fast Sundays and bear a long and drawn out testimony about how much of a testimony they have of President Thomas S. Monson, Joseph Smith, and the Book of Mormon. I mean, most Mormon meetings are heavy on church specifics (current prophet, Joseph Smith, Book of Mormon, church organization, etc.), but will never even mention Jesus Christ even though they claim to be Christian.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Speaking of Joseph Smith and Jesus Christ, there is an interesting quote I found from Joseph Smith. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"> "I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been
able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole
have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man
ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day
Saints never ran away from me yet." - Joseph Smith, <i>History of the Church</i> vol. 6, Page 408-409</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">How is this sentiment okay? If Joseph Smith is who he says he is, then how could this sentiment be anywhere near to true, or even okay for him to express? Isn't Jesus Christ supposed to be the only perfect one? The greatest of them all? Where does God fit in, except for under Joseph Smith, according to this quote?</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Also, what is Joseph Smith doing denying his polygamous practices, as in the following quote? </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"> "What a thing it is for a man to be accused of committing adultery, and having seven wives, when I can only find one." - Joseph Smith, <i>History of the Church</i> vol. 6, Page 412</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">This is not okay. It is proven that he had many more wives than that. Supposedly, some of them still married to other men, others being as young as 14, many behind the back of his "real" wife Emma. Kind of creepy, especially when he flat out denies it.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Continuing further. How many weird things happen in the Book of Mormon that just cannot be true, or at the very least are serious inconsistencies? Try these three prime examples. First, what about when Nephi cuts off Laban's head? How are the clothes not covered in blood? This one always baffled me. Basically, he uses a ceremonial sword, to cut off an armored, drunk man's head in one blow, alone, and then takes the, somehow, unstained clothes, and tricks this man's servant into coming with him? Was the servant drunk too? Was it that dark? Was Nephi somehow a copy of Laban?</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Second, what about when Shiz's head gets cut off in the book of Ether? How in the world is he capable of doing a push-up? There is way too much activity there for him to have just been decapitated. I can see simple activities, but that just stretches it a little too far for me.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Third, the ships that Jared builds are a little hard to believe. He builds a bunch of wooden submarines? Where does all the excrement go? What do they do when they run out of air and have to open up part of the ship and water comes in? How do you drain the water? What about the glowing rocks, can we reconstruct these somehow? If the ship is rotating so much that they need holes on top and on bottom, how are the people inside not killed with all that tossing and turning? And if the turning is slow, what do they do if both holes are covered by water and they run out of air? It just doesn't add up in many ways.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Here are a few more interesting quotes from church leadership.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"> "That negro race.... Have been placed under restrictions because of their attitude in the world of spirits, few will doubt. It cannot be looked upon as just that they should be deprived of the power of the priesthood without it being a punishment for some act, or acts, performed before they were born." - Joseph Fielding Smith, <i>The Way to Perfection</i> Page 43</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">So, basically black people are somehow lesser than everyone else because they sinned in the premortal existence. Once this teaching becomes unpopular enough, the church simply changes it's stance through revelation. Surprise!</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Here is one that really disgusts me.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"> "...The one-wife system not only degenerates the human family, both physically and intellectually, but it is entirely incompatible with philosophical notions of immortality; it is a lure to temptation, and has always proved a curse to a people." - John Taylor, <i>Millenial Star</i> Vol. 15, Page 227</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Having one wife is physically and intellectually degrading now? Because having a harem is somehow more intellectually stimulating? I fail to follow. Plus, I have seen recent studies that suggest that polygamist families tend to have a higher disease rate than the general populace. That probably explains my family rather well. This shows the church's true stance on polygamy. They may change it due to pop politics, but the doctrine is still there in the teachings of the presidents of the church and in the doctrine and covenants. The church never said that polygamy was wrong, just that it shouldn't be practiced anymore.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">This brings up an interesting point. If the old presidents should be ignored for what new presidents are teaching, this brings the same discord and chaos that the church claims to prevent. The church has a prophet so that we know who to follow, but if each prophet teaches conflicting doctrines, then the problem isn't solved at all. Or, we can just ignore past prophets, then at that point what is the purpose of a prophet at all? Once he is dead, we can ignore him anyway.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Speaking of prophets, what is the deal with the lack of continued revelation? Check out this graphic to see what I mean.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Why don't modern day prophets prophesy? Why is it that we received 136 chapters of doctrine and covenants, two other books of scripture, along with numerous day to day revelations from Joseph Smith, when in the last almost 200 years since there have been about 6 revelations. The two things that president Monson has done is to open a shopping mall and to lower the missionary age.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">I am just getting going on this information. I will have more in the next post. </span>Not True Blue Anymorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09415646742298290027noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5501370948697409196.post-63540242709628536382013-01-06T19:33:00.001-08:002013-01-06T19:34:11.114-08:00I am not aloneI don't have much to add to this, personally, but this blog post resonated with me. I agree with much of the experiences, feelings, conclusions, and even the timeline is very similar to how things happened to me, it just happened faster for me. I think this guy gets a lot right in how the church influences your thinking on many things, it is long, but well worth the read.<br />
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<a href="http://lovepridereason.blogspot.com/2013/01/why-i-resigned-from-mormon-church.html">http://lovepridereason.blogspot.com/2013/01/why-i-resigned-from-mormon-church.html</a><br />
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First, no one will listen to someone with this attitude. If I act like I am better than you because I have all the answers, that I have things figured out and you just need to get on board with the program, or that I have some privileged knowledge or position that you are completely missing, then you almost automatically assume that I am wrong. You have no reason to trust my position, and my attitude would just be poisoning any benefit you get from my position. In actuality, my arrogance has no bearing on the truthfulness of anything I say, but people will automatically distrust because they will dislike my attitude. I am, of course, using the "I" only metaphorically.<br />
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Second, you are not likely to learn anything anymore. You have all the answers, what more could you hope to learn? You already know it, nobody else can tell you anything. This is essentially what many of these people will communicate implicitly. How do you expect to learn anything, even about your own religion, if you are so cock that you think everyone else doesn't have it quite as figured out as you do? This brand of arrogance leaves me disgusted. They are so sure of what they know that they don't leave any room for error, to the point of treating other people poorly (perhaps not intentionally) just because they disagree.<br />
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Third, no one knows enough to be rightfully this certain. There are these elements of faith that Mormons talk about, but when it comes down to it, there is no way for them to truly know. I know most of them will argue this, but when it comes down to it it simply just doesn't work out quite that way. To be able to appropriately take this stance with someone, you would have to have a similar situation as a parent with a toddler. The toddler thinks they know the way the world works, and the parent just kind of knowingly says "haha, you will learn someday." To have one adult take that stance with another? That is ridiculous.<br />
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Finally, to assume a teacher/mentor role with someone without permission is the height of arrogance. There are times when we relinquish this role to others, such as a professor when we are taking a class, a parent, or even ecclesiastical leadership, but it is an invasion of personal space to have someone simply take this role on themselves. However, it is practically encouraged for church members to do this with non-believers. "Teach them the gospel, tell them how it is, bring them to Jesus." This is inappropriate and distasteful. If you are Mormon and reading this, please don't do it, if you have done this in the past, please stop. Not True Blue Anymorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09415646742298290027noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5501370948697409196.post-19749295298262733352012-12-06T23:16:00.001-08:002012-12-06T23:16:29.802-08:00Fake, False, and PhonyWhy are people so fake? Everyone in the church seems so concerned with putting on this air of perfection that they don't seem to be concerned at all with actually living their religion. They are so concerned with looking like they live their religion that they don't actually do it. They take the adage "avoid the appearance of evil" that they don't actually concern themselves with not being evil. When visible defects or sins become less socially acceptable than more deep seated character flaws then something is definitely wrong.<br />
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Socially it is unacceptable to appear flawed. If you aren't always smiling that plasticy smile, then people get all freaked out and avoid you. If you don't have every sinful behavior under control, then people start to talk about you behind your back and assume that you are "going off the deep end." If you have any emotions aside from joy, that obviously means that you are sinning or doing something wrong.<br />
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What does this end up coming down to? People will beat themselves up if they don't do everything perfectly. If they aren't reading their scriptures every day, they feel guilty. If they have to miss out on a single week of church or any church activity, even if it is due to sickness, travel, or any other reasonable reason, then it is a huge guilt trip for themselves. If they can't go to the temple every week, then all of the sudden they are the worst person in the world. However, if they are judgmental, cruel, gossiping, and holier than thou, then it isn't that big of a deal, no one sees or asks about these things. I have met way too many many hypocritical people that will crucify you for not studying your scriptures for at least 30 minutes a day and will make be disgusted at anything remotely suggestive, but they will turn around and make their roommates' lives hell, they will be racist, sexist, and bigoted in every way possible, and they will never let anything short of perfection go.<br />
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I don't think most people even realize how deep this behavior goes. However, it is everywhere. When people try so hard to "do what is right" without actually trying to follow the savior that they claim to believe in, it isn't hard to see why most of the world has a hard time calling Mormons Christians.<br />
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It is really frustrating to see the fakeness everywhere. Everyone is false, they don't have a real personality, they don't really share their true feelings, and they try and control themselves in every aspect possible. This goes to the point of suppression. This all becomes, in many ways, psychologically damaging.<br />
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The craziest part of it all, is that there are actually people that don't feel this way in the middle of the culture, but they are afraid of speaking up and finding others like themselves because they are afraid of being judged. Others will give them crap if they drop the phony and start being real.<br />
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Any group that encourages phony (whether actively or implicitly) has serious issues, and can't be considered a good thing.Not True Blue Anymorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09415646742298290027noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5501370948697409196.post-25387561245765693632012-11-24T16:15:00.002-08:002012-11-24T16:15:34.815-08:00Priesthood, Feminism, and InspirationThe priesthood is an interesting thing. What was crazy for me was to realize that all of my special moments connected with the priesthood had more to do with emotionality than with spirituality. When I was feeling "spiritual" it was really just emotional. The moments that were for me most spiritual were the emotionally meaningful moments. When emotionality and spirituality get so confounded, it is hard to tell when the priesthood ordinances are truly accomplishing anything.<br />
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To think that only certain men that follow certain guidelines are given God's power is a little crazy idea. Even worse, is the concept that you have this almighty power, but it only works when it is God's will that it works. This is basically code for "don't lose your faith if it doesn't work," which is complete nonsense. If you can't rely on a tool to consistently get a job done, what is the purpose of having the tool at all? The tool might as well not even exist.<br />
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There are a lot more problems when we are talking about "priesthood authority." Supposedly, your bishop has the power of discernment, meaning he can tell what the right thing is for you, tell when you are lying, and he can tell what sins you are committing. Now, reality is that, of course, he can't. I can't count the number of times that I, or friends (as they later tell me), will go into a bishop's office and he will either entirely miss the point about what I was doing, will give me terrible advice, or will not have some revelation about something that I am not telling him. I know my Mormon friends will probably say that it is because they weren't being worthy of inspiration or something like that, but these were all good men and model Mormons, so there is no excuse.<br />
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It is very apparent that there are many men in the priesthood that flaunt their gift. They wield it like a weapon and use it to coerce people into certain behaviors. Priesthood becomes a control mechanism. I knew a family growing up without a father in the home, but the one son that was active in the church turned into the head of the household because he had the priesthood. The family deferred to him in many ways. This just seems wrong that the youngest in the family becomes the most important, just because he is a man.<br />
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Why are men so important in the church? Why is it that women are so unimportant? The church treats women as if the only thing they can do is make babies and keep a house. The church teaches that the highest calling for a woman is to be a mother. You have no other future. You need to drop every plan and desire in your life and become a mother as soon as possible. There is also the teaching that the women don't need the priesthood because of how much more spiritual they are, and that women are the gatekeepers of virtue because men are just completely out of control sex machines, I guess. These doctrines are completely degrading both to men and women. Why can't men and women be treated as equals? Is the church really still stuck in the 1800's?<br />
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Anyway, a few random topics that have been sitting on my mind. Feels good to vent.Not True Blue Anymorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09415646742298290027noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5501370948697409196.post-50363837523605721742012-11-19T20:44:00.002-08:002012-11-19T20:44:20.159-08:00And the truth shall set you freeI am having a bad day. I admit it. There are times when I am just terrified that bad things are happening to me because I am "sinning" and have lost the "protection of god." I realize this is total crap, and I will explain why. Simply put, conditioning will cause you to see things that aren't really there. It is easy to pick up meaning from randomness, we were taught to do it all the time in the LDS church. It is called "following the spirit," and those that were really good it were though to be especially spiritual. Let me explain this more scientifically. If you take a random number generator and generate two different sequences of numbers you can run a statistical analysis on them. Theoretically, since both sequences came from the same distribution there should be no significant difference. However, there are times when a standard student-t test will show that the two sequences are significantly different. This is, of course, total bullcrap, but this shows that you can find meaning in randomness.<br />
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I mean, why would God come out and punish people the second they do anything wrong? Doesn't the LDS faith believe in a loving God? A loving God wouldn't say "oh, so you weren't perfect? Well, try having a living hell for a life, BLAM." It also seems ridiculous to think that God is punishing someone for not believing, when believers keep asking the question "why do bad things happen to good people?" If God were really punishing bad people and rewarding good people (this whole argument is pretty close to the argument "This good thing is happening to me, must be because I am doing what is right!") then things wouldn't be so random. You wouldn't have good things happening so often to "bad" people and bad things happening so often to "good" people. Let's be serious here, bad and good things happen, at will, to both the good and the bad. That is life, deal with it.<br />
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Why would things hit randomly, months later, when "in the moment" of "sinful" behavior I don't feel any guilt, don't have any problems, no bad things happen, etc. This seems to defy the mormon reasoning behind "well, bad things are happening to you, when are you coming back to church?" It is especially annoying when I talk with mormons about my lack of faith and the first thing they ask is "well, have things been going poorly for you lately?" All assuming that my life must be terrible if I am not a practicing mormon.<br />
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I had an interesting thought today while reading a conversion story. I realized that I felt the exact same way once I <i>left</i> the church. I have seen and heard of so many people feeling happier than ever once they join the church, that their family can even see the difference in them, everyone notices how much happier they are. Well, this happened to me in reverse. I changed a lot for the better, and I felt a lot happier and better, all once I left the church. Why is this? I think it has more to do with discovering our true selves, and less with discovering "the truth." Discovering your true self <i>will</i> set you free. Burying yourself under falsehoods and half-truths, under compulsions and obligations, will stifle yourself and your personality. It is really unfair both to you and to the world to do that to yourself.<br />
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I am really glad that I am finding myself. This has been a more meaningful "spiritual" experience than I have ever had in the church. If only people inside the church would believe that those of us outside could ever be happy.Not True Blue Anymorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09415646742298290027noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5501370948697409196.post-66721563073576139732012-11-13T17:17:00.000-08:002012-11-13T17:17:08.144-08:00MoralityThis post might be bothersome to those that are still heavily religious, as I am pondering on the possibility of moral relativity. If that is problematic for you, don't keep reading.<br />
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First, I am really annoyed by the assumptions people make when I tell them that I don't consider myself to be Mormon anymore. Mormons will immediately jump to the conclusion that I am sinning and trying to justify my behavior. I find this highly unfair, but not nearly as unfair as the next jump they make if they determine that you aren't sinning. They automatically assume that you are doing things the "right way." That you are not praying right, or reading the scriptures correctly, or going to church with the wrong attitude, or whatever. Failing this argument, they jump to the conclusion that you <i>must</i> have been offended by someone. What gets really entertaining is when this argument fails. The next jump is completely unpredictable, from "I don't know" all the way to "you must be psychologically unstable." Why can't they just let people have their own freedom to choose?<br />
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That aside, I want to talk more about "sinning" and morality. The assumption that I "left to sin" is simply absurd. Sure, maybe there are people like that. I am not one of them. I left because I could no longer consider the church to be true. There was no way for me to reconcile what I was hearing and learning about in the church with what I was feeling and understanding to be true. That being said, I am not still living the "Mormon lifestyle." Mormons, however, get the causal relationship all wrong. I didn't leave to do what I want, I started doing what I want after I left.<br />
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The notion of sin is an interesting one. As such, morality and sinfulness are all described more or less in the context of a religious belief system. Without such a system of beliefs, the reasoning behind behavior changes completely. This does not imply a hedonistic lifestyle at all. Look at things from a more scientific perspective. Hedonism will not keep an organism happy, it leads to an out of balance life, and will rack up problems more quickly than it will pleasure. You need to work altruistic notions into your model before a good behavioral model will arise. Why would you work these notions in? The most succinct reason I can put (you should be able to extrapolate from here and come up with more of your own reasons) is that you won't stay happy long if you keep pissing people off. If you keep others happy (to a healthy degree) then they will help to keep you happy. This is, in essence, the way that we learn to cooperate, even in extremely selfish societies. If you want to learn more about that concept, I recommend the book <u><i>The evolution of cooperation</i></u> by Axelrod.<br />
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With that in mind, how do I then determine what is "right" and "wrong" behavior? It has now become an extremely loose concept, and I can see why this makes many people extremely uncomfortable when they find themselves in a similar situation. Perhaps there isn't really an absolute right or wrong, but situation rights and wrongs. We need to evaluate in any given situation what should be done. We can try and rely on magical thinking or higher powers all we want, but I don't think that any intelligent deity would want to create a culture of complete dependence, but would rather want to foster independent thought and action. You learn by doing, experience being your master. You learn by recognizing what will cause problems and what will prevent problems, what will make you happy and what will bring you pain. In this sense this makes life a lot more formulaic, but that doesn't necessarily need to be a problem.<br />
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Here are some interesting questions in the context of Mormon morality. What makes a person inherently more evil for drinking coffee, tea, or alcohol? And yet, they consistently treat people poorly for such actions. What makes a person inherently more evil for masturbation, fornication, or homosexuality? Why is it that once sexuality is involved, all of the sudden everything not completely controlled by the church is evil? Am I going to start trying to destroy humanity simply because I have a sip of coffee or tea? Or will it take something "extreme" like not paying tithing or attending church before I will try to destroy others? Maybe those aren't sinful enough, maybe I have to be so bad as to go to a grocery store on Sunday, or say no to the church to spend more time with my family? For all of these heinous crimes and more the church will question and belittle you, in addition to denying you the "blessings" in the church. So, I am only good if I am completely obedient? Since when is that a virtue? Should we be teaching children to obey everyone without question? Why? It is a virtue, isn't it?<br />
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I would submit that all of this "sinful" behavior only becomes bad when it starts to hurt others or hurt yourself. There is no need to dictate behavior that doesn't cause any problems for anyone. There is no need to cause an uproar over simple issues of preference. These are some of the things that caused me to have an issue with the church in the first place. It is not their place to tell people to do in half of the instances that they choose to do so.Not True Blue Anymorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09415646742298290027noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5501370948697409196.post-686440880223948432012-11-07T21:29:00.001-08:002012-11-07T21:29:48.607-08:00LDS Church inc."The LDS church is a corporation."<br />
"No it isn't, how dare you say such a thing!"<br />
"Well, look at it. I can't believe they can retain a non-profit status with all of the profit they make."<br />
"But it is a church! It is God's kingdom on earth. All of that 'profit' is used to help the needy and build the kingdom, a corporation would do that."<br />
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All caricatured discussions aside, I am starting to see the church as more of a business corporation than as a religious institution. Now, this might be the case with all churches, but my experience happens to be with just this one. Perhaps religion is a basic human desire, and there is a brand of business that thrives by satisfying those needs and wants. That is how most businesses work, anyway.<br />
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Now let me put it this way. The church has a high mandatory (Now, whether or not it really is compulsion is an argument in and of itself, but when not paying has such a high social and religious cost, it can hardly be said to be optional.) membership fee - tithing. You pay 10% of all your income to the church, no questions asked. The church doesn't even disclose what happens with this money. They will throw the members a bone every so often at general conference, but nobody <i>really</i> knows what happens with it all. This tithing goes to pay for their biggest source of income: temples. Why are temples the biggest source of income? You have to pay tithing to get in them. The closer temples are, the more likely members will get a temple recommend and attend the temples. The more temple recommend holding members, the more tithing coming in to the church. The more tithing coming in, the more the church can do God knows what.<br />
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What other indicators are there that the LDS church is a business? Well, the church has plenty of investments. The recently opened mall is a great example. The church owns tons of land across the world (not all of it has a building on it, or even planned). This isn't even "hidden" knowledge, most members have heard of some investment or another, especially the high-ticket ones (like said mall).<br />
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Whatever else the church has done, the biggest kicker is how it promotes itself. I was recently attending some meetings for my workplace where they were discussing best practice for the sales industry. Surprisingly (or perhaps not), all of these best practices would obviously be beneficial to the missionary program. Some of the best practices were taught to me in the MTC or at zone conferences in the mission field. Others were practices that the "best" missionaries were performing without being told to do so. Is it any surprise that the "good" missionaries all are really good at summer sales jobs? I would venture not...<br />
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Look at it this way. What is the product that the church offers? The Gospel, eternal happiness, eternal families, peace, forgiveness, these are all product offers that the church is trying to sell. Ultimately trying to sell its specific form of opiates. The church also has plenty of education on these offers, through Sunday meetings, missionary discussions, and other church activities. The church also has membership and loyalty benefits, if you are loyal and follow specific rules, you can be inducted into the "gold membership" club, which offers a better selection and better quality product (this is referencing the temple, if you couldn't tell). The church also has a referral program, if you refer friends and family to the program, you get extra access to the product line. Also, like a business the church has a <i>huge</i> focus on expansion and growth. They are constantly seeking newer and better ways to deliver their product, to an ever expanding market, with the goal of 100% market penetration and market share. In fact, as a member you can hardly go by a couple of weeks without the church trying to push you out to go do their marketing for them.<br />
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Now, the devil's advocate in me has to come out for a second. Is this just an overly cynical view on the "way things simply are?" I don't think so, but let me argue that point for a second and then debunk it. Perhaps all experience can be reduced to a "business model." Perhaps I am just viewing the world through a cynical lens, and I could see anything as being this business like, I simply haven't applied the model to everything else in the world.<br />
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I don't think that is the right way to look at it. If the church really were everything it claimed to be, it would be more transparent, less exclusive, less tithing hungry, etc. I feel like there are and can be more altruistic organizations. The LDS church simply isn't that organization. I feel like the LDS church does not truly promote Christ-like behavior, but I will write more about that in a future post. Not True Blue Anymorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09415646742298290027noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5501370948697409196.post-14788108865367795092012-11-03T13:15:00.000-07:002012-11-03T13:15:03.270-07:00BitternessI was talking to a friend about being bitter about the church. I realize that I <b>am </b>bitter, perhaps not in an extreme, but I have a lot to resent. I figure that I need to write about what I am actually bitter about. It will be easier to deal with if I can let it out and examine it, rather than bury it and ignore it.<br />
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Word of warning, this will be more angry sounding than it probably needs be, if you don't like it, deal with it.<br />
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What am I bitter about? Probably more than anything else, the fact that I felt like my personality was suppressed by religion. The church seemed to prevent me from being able to fully express myself, and I haven't felt able to really get to know myself until I finally let go of the church. Instead I, like everyone else that is truly faithful, buried my personality and took on the standard Peter priesthood type of behavior. Knowing that that isn't me, I slowly pulled away from that, but it took a long time to fully break away and discover myself.<br />
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Another thing, the fact that the church seems to be filled with lies and deceit. The many "revelations" and scriptures and teachings, the leaders that, at least the higher ups, have to know that it isn't true on some level. The fact that everything is more or less a farce.<br />
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The guilt and control are things that I have talked about before, but I resent being forced to do so many things that I really didn't need or want to do, the fact that I felt guilty if I didn't go to the temple enough, pray enough, read my scriptures enough, and then I would feel guilty for not doing things "the right way" because I didn't ever feel what I supposed to, which in retrospect is more indicative of it being hollow, not being my fault.<br />
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I also resent the amount of time the church took and still takes. While my mission was a great experience in some ways, that was two years that I won't get back. All the hours and pain and work for the church in callings and attendance, at church, activities, and at home. These things did not necessarily add value to my life, except within the context of church. It all helped me to "progress" on the gospel, but all of that is now meaningless once I leave it behind. No wonder so many people don't want to give it up, even if it becomes obvious. So much is invested in your church membership, that it becomes painful to break away. However, once you know the truth, it really does set you free. There is no need to hide from the truth, it can only help you to be happier and to grow.<br />
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Now, I am really just left with lots of questions, like where am I going, where did I come from,Mehta is the purpose of life. However, I also know that having and answer just to have an answer will never satisfy me, and I am not greatly perturbed by not having all the answers. Perhaps that is more of my life's work, to discover the answers to these important questions, to discover it for myself. I want the truth this time, not something made up and manipulative,Not True Blue Anymorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09415646742298290027noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5501370948697409196.post-38988226006383119622012-10-31T19:42:00.000-07:002012-10-31T19:42:01.087-07:00Control and Diffuse BoundariesHere is one thing that bothers me about the church. Diffuse boundaries. I understand that the "reason" is that people are just concerned neighbors, or brothers and sisters, or priesthood leaders, also that they care about your welfare and well-being. I know that these are official reasons, but it seems to play into a culture of control and diffuse boundaries. What do I mean by that? Let me explain each in turn.<br />
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<u>Culture of Control</u><br />
There is a lot of behavioral control in the church. Now, let me preface this by saying that I do understand the official reasons. The church just wants to see people sticking within the rules so that they don't sin. If people can keep from sinning too much, they can be receptive to the holy ghost. The holy ghost will purify you and make you eligible for the celestial kingdom. Which is the end-goal of life. Never mind that the rules for what is sinful and what is not comes from the church itself. Never mind that the goal and the path are both created by the church. The whole situation is circular, the prerequisites, requirements, goals, and solutions all come from the church. Whether you buy into the circular logic or not is a different story, but you need to realize that this situation exists.<br />
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Back to control. The church has a lot of rules. The church has a lot of ways to try and enforce its rules. It starts before baptism even. "If you don't follow all of our rules, you can't join, you had a strong feeling, so you <b>have</b> to join now." A need is created <i>ex nihilo</i>. This need can only be satisfied by the church. To satisfy this need you have to follow the rules as exactly as possible. To make sure that you are following the rules exactly (and punishing yourself appropriately for any misstep) the church also subjects you to probing interviews (more on this later).<br />
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Now that this need has been created, and you already have subjected yourself to the rules in order to keep getting that need satisfied. This is accomplished through the sacrament every week. You need to be worthy to keep taking the sacrament. A minor slip and you don't take it for a week. The sacrament is also touted as the most sacred ordinance that happens outside the temple. Why? So that you <b>have</b> to keep coming back for more. Speaking of the temple, that is the last level of control. Now you not only have to have agreed to it once, and keep self-policing for ever more, now you need to tell the bishop and stake president every single time you slip up a little bit, just so that you can keep going to the temple. You also have to let him ask you probing questions about what <i>might</i> be wrong or sinful in your life to prevent you from going to the temple.<br />
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All of this is bought into and perpetuated by the general membership. This includes home and visiting teachers, elder's quorums and relief societies, bishoprics, high councils, sunday school presidencies, and any other person on the ward council or any other leadership group in the church. These are the people that will check up on you to make sure that you continue to perform your duties, keep a strong testimony, and lead a sin-free life.<br />
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This also includes tithing. The church has revealed that this must be 10% of your income, this lets you make the excruciating decision of whether or not this is before or after taxes, or on gifts, or any other nit-picky choice. <br />
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Now, you might say you don't absolutely <b>have</b> to follow the rules, but let me remind you that you are part of a group that has instilled in you an artificial need to keep coming back to them for more "spiritual nourishment." They have made sure that you believe that they are the only source of spiritual nourishment, and that you will never find enough on your own. So, they give you a need and the capacity to fulfill it, so nice of them. The only catch is that you have to do <b>exactly</b> as they tell you to in order to continue to be "happy."<br />
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<u>Culture of Diffuse Boundaries</u><br />
This brings me back to diffuse boundaries. Why is the church so invasive? Everything is everyone's business. You don't go to church? Someone will be assigned to contact you. Don't perform your calling perfectly? Bishop will ask you what's wrong. Don't do your home or visiting teaching? Don't worry, you will only have about two talks and three lessons this month reaming you for not having done it, or not having done it right.<br />
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Not only that, but the bishop and stake president also reserve the right to question you about everything and anything. This includes <b>all</b> of your behavior. Whether or not you are drinking alcohol, tea, or coffee; whether or not you are having sex or masturbating; what kind of underwear you are wearing and how; what you do all day on Sunday; who you associate with; and if you are paying the church enough money. This is all supposedly to help you keep on the track that you want to keep on, but it is invasive into every single aspect of your life. The weirdest part is that everybody is perfectly okay with this.<br />
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Boundaries are a natural part of human existence that the church completely ignores and disrespects. All of these things have less to do with your relationship to god and more to do with how closely tied you are to the church. The church will get you involved and do everything it can to keep you. It ignores the fact that your relationship to god is inherently personal and private and does not need to be dictated by any entity, this includes a church.<br />
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Control and boundaries violations do not fly in my book, not anymore. Nor should they in anyone's book. Yet members let this happen repeatedly to themselves in their lives. Not True Blue Anymorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09415646742298290027noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5501370948697409196.post-52516522435707962872012-10-30T23:54:00.002-07:002012-10-31T17:14:23.844-07:00My StoryA question that I asked a friend today: "Why is it that God sees fit to reveal 3 new books during Joseph Smith's lifetime, and yet in the past 180+ years reveals a whopping 3 pages?" <br />
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First, let me introduce the blog. I recently decided that the LDS church was simply not true. I am currently attending BYU (the heart of Mormonville), and I have little opportunity to express my feelings here. I figure that finding a healthy way to release all that energy will help me to work hard to finish my schooling, while also bugging my real friends with it less. I also want to have my entire story written down so that when I "come out" to my family and friends about how I feel, it will all be clearly laid out, and I can direct them here for answers. As such, I am going to keep this blog anonymous for now. In other words, this blog is about my exit from the church while still studying at BYU. I only have 8 months left, so I can't blow it now.<br />
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Next, I want to tell my story. I was always very faithful and devout. I grew up in the church, my parents are both regular church-going members. I was always told how to think and behave when it came to religious matters. Luckily, my parents also instilled in me a deep curiosity about the world, and taught me to question things (as long is it wasn't doubting the church). Nonetheless, this didn't ever bother me until recently. I always did as I should without even being asked to when it came to religious matters. I attended every meeting, participated fully, read my scriptures, said my prayers, etc. etc. The whole nine yards. I ended up serving a full-time 2 year mission for the church, during which I met many people that made me think and question on a deeply fundamental level, but I always resolved the resulting cognitive dissonance by appealing to my past experience with feelings (the "gold standard" of the church), rather than to my reason.<br />
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Coming home off my mission, I decided to attend BYU. Everything worked out smoothly getting in, it had the program I desired, and it seemed like a good fit. Even coming back, everything seemed to be perfect. I was continuing to grow more deeply entrenched in the gospel. I believed more strongly than ever, and I had been able to puzzle out some rather complex answers to complex questions. I did, however, start to see a lot of hypocritical behavior amongst the people around me. "No matter," I would always tell myself, "The church is true, even if the people aren't."<br />
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Two years into my BYU education, I was becoming less satisfied with my scripture study, prayers, temple worship, and church attendance. Not that I wasn't doing them, but that I didn't feel like I was getting as much out of them. In turn, I decided to throw myself with more abandon at the whole "Mormon experience" in order to "rekindle" my spirituality. Needless to say, this did not really accomplish what I was after. After three years at BYU, my cognitive dissonance was at a peak, and I was burying an awful lot. I can see that now, even though it wasn't apparent at the time.<br />
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Finally, after a short burst of hypocrisy from my several neighbors and "friends" (several things happening within a day that disgusted me), my cognitive dissonance finally resolved itself. This time, however, without the self-deceit, without repression, and without burying anything. I finally let myself ask the questions I had been dying to ask. I finally let myself feel the feelings I didn't think were right. I finally let myself put the pieces together that obvious were meant to be together. At this point, it hit me like a ton of bricks, I asked myself "What if the Mormon church <i>isn't</i> the only true church?" This is what started it for me.<br />
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Soon after that, I started picking up every belief I had held, and examining it, questioning it. Asking it some questions, interrogating it to see if it was telling me the truth. I started by throwing away lying beliefs one at a time, but then I progressed into whole-sale abandonment of large swaths of beliefs. I unraveled every bit of religious education and upbringing within the short space of 3 months. During this time I talked to several family members, several friends that I could trust, my bishop, and my mission president (who, by now, was home and around BYU campus). Some people gave me good advice, some people told me I was sinning and should stop, some people told me that I shouldn't have stopped reading, praying, and going to church (I want to reiterate right here that I had been doing all these things devoutly, even attending the temple the week of my epiphany against the church). I was lucky to have a core group of friends and family members that told me it was okay, that they didn't judge me, that let me talk things out. I am extremely grateful to have had these people in my life at this time.<br />
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In spite of the backlash I received from some angles, I still couldn't simply wish my new beliefs away. What was truly distressing to me was that I didn't even know if God existed anymore. I couldn't reconcile the lack of involvement in my personal life and the lack of response to my prayers. I finally cried out in sheer desperation in prayer "Heavenly Father, are you really there? Do you hear my prayers? If you are there, please help me to find you, make yourself known to me." After praying this way a couple of times, I realized no answer was coming, and I simply gave up.<br />
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At this point, I started realizing that anything I did and believed had to come from <i>me</i>. Not any external source. If <i>I</i> didn't think it was true, I didn't have to believe it. If <i>I</i> thought it was a good idea, I should do it. I realized I needed to come up with my own moral code, and that I can't live on borrowed ethics any longer.<br />
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Throughout all of this, it has been a very liberating experience. I feel that I am more capable and confident. I feel like I have been more true to myself. I feel like I am doing the right thing, more so than I ever have in the past. I realize that this will be a completely alien concept to any Mormon reading this, and they will probably think that I am misguided by satan (or some other such BS) and will completely discredit my feelings, my beliefs, my experiences, and my intellect. Blaming other people, circumstances, or situations for my loss of faith.<br />
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In fact, the only dark cloud in this new found light has come from the church itself. Now, going to church (and I still need to attend in order to keep my progress at BYU) is a depressing act that reminds me of how much I struggled (and failed) to find the truth and the emotional pain that went along with not receiving anything (not for lack of trying), the pain that came as a result of the cognitive dissonance that was so pronounced. The fact that I need to lie to myself and others about my beliefs in order to not get into trouble with the school is part of this darkness. That the church and the school compel me to lie in order to not have wasted the last 3.5 years of my life (not to mention tens of thousands of dollars) is probably the most annoying part looking towards the future.<br />
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Other than that, life hasn't ever been better. I am on a quest to find true light and knowledge, not the false light presented by the church.Not True Blue Anymorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09415646742298290027noreply@blogger.com0